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De ecclesia, chapter 22, part 3

Praying for the damned: Augustine, Gregory and the reason against it

Loserth pp. 524.18–528.17

¶1524.18–526.31

524Item, Augustinus XXI° De Civitate Dei, capitulo XXIV°, tractans istam eandem materiam ponit primo evidencias discipulorum Origenis arguencium si ex precepto domini homines debent in via diligere et orare pro inimicis (ut patet Mathei V°): multo magis beati in maiori caritate plus exaudibiles orabant pro illis continue, et per consequens oportet quod sint finaliter exauditi. Unde totam scripturam de dampnacione perpetua glossant quod homines digni sunt pati talia, si non assit Dei misericordia, non (inquiunt) quod passuri sunt talia, sed sicut nemo sane fidei hoc dixit, sic nec dicturus est. Alioquin, inquit, nulla foret nunc causa, cur non eciam nunc pro dyabolo 525et angelis eius oret ecclesia. Hec ergo causa qua fit ut nunc ecclesia non oret pro malis angelis quos suos novit esse inimicos; eadem ipsa causa est qua fiet ut in illo tunc iudicio eciam pro hominibus eterno igni cruciandis, quamvis homo perfecta sit sanctitate, non oret. Nunc enim propterea pro eis orat quos in genere humano habet inimicos, quia tempus est penitencie fructuose. Unde orat (sicut dicit Apostolus), ut Deus det illis penitenciam et resipiscant de dyaboli laqueis a quo captivi tenentur secundum ipsius voluntatem. Denique, inquit, de aliquibus ita certa esset, ut qui sint illi nosset, qui licet in hac vita constituti sunt, tamen predestinati ire in ignem eternum cum dyabolo; tam pro eis non oraret quam nec pro ipso. Ex istis patet quod nemo oraret pro illo specialiter quem scit perpetualiter ante tempus oracionis esse dampnatum perpetuo. Item, beatus Gregorius XXXIV° Moralium capitulo— dicit eandem sentenciam cum Augustino: Ubi est, inquiunt, quod sunt sancti, si pro inimicis suis quos ardere viderint non orabunt. Sed respondemus: Orant pro inimicis suis eo tempore quo possunt ad fructuosam penitenciam eorum corda convertere. Sed quomodo tunc pro illis orabitur, quando iam non possunt ab iniquitate ad iusticie opera conmutari? Eadem itaque causa est, cur tunc non oretur pro hominibus istis dampnatis, que causa est nunc ut non oretur pro ipso dyabolo. Et multa similia ibi infert. Racio autem omnium istorum sanctorum doctorum stat in isto: Nemo debet orare Deum specialiter pro 526aliquo impetrando, quod scit tunc fore irracionabile Deum sibi concedere et impossibile sibi ipsum adquirere, sed sic foret de quolibet scienter orante pro beatificacione hominis quem scit Deum ad dampnacionem perpetuam ordinasse; ergo conclusio. Minor patet ex hoc quod orans nedum sciret oracionem huiusmodi fore frustra, sed foret scienter contrarius voluntati divine, et per consequens ineptus ad dicendum ex animo oracionem quam Christus docuit Matthei VI°, 10: Fiat voluntas tua in celo et in terra. Quomodo queso subicit ipse humiliter voluntatem suam voluntati divine qui videt clare quod sit pulchrum et utile ut sic fiat ex ordinacione divina, et oppositum foret dampnosum et turpe, et tamen instat ut Deus faciat illud quod de facto foret irracionabile. Nam proinde foret ac si rogaret Deum mutare suum propositum et ordinacionem eternam vel meliorare mundum in infinitum ultra quam decrevit, vel orare ut Deus non permittat aliquod malum fieri quod iam est preteritum. Sed Petrus Matthei XVI°, 23 propter talem adversam peticionem vocatus est Sathanas ab illo qui Johannis XVII°, 9 dicit: Non pro mundo rogo (hoc est, pro prescitis quorum dampnacio est cum mundo), et a quo Johannes dicit: Est peccatum ad mortem, non pro eo dico, ut roget quis, Iª Johannis ultimo 16. Et hec racio, quare beati non rogant nisi pro dignis quos intuentur Deum velle iuvare; aliter enim forent miserrimi vel languide a peticione sua frustrati, vel aliter orarent frustra contra voluntatem suam pro illo quod de appetunt; quod foret in eis magna duplicitas.

Again, Augustine, City of God 21, chapter 24, treating this same matter, first sets out the evidencesevidencia: evidence of the disciples of Origen, who argue: if by the Lord’s precept men on the way ought to love and pray for their enemies (as is clear in Matthew 5), much more the blessed, in greater charitycaritas: charity and more fit to be heard, were praying for them continually; and consequently they must finally be heard.1 Hence they gloss all scripture on perpetual damnationdampnacio: damnation to mean "that men are worthy to suffer such things if God’s mercy be not present, not (they say) that they are going to suffer such things; but as no one of sound faith has said this, so neither will anyone say it."2 "Otherwise," he says, "there would now be no reason why the churchecclesia: church should not now pray also for the devil 525and his angels. This therefore the reason by which it comes about that the church does not now pray for the evil angels, whom it knows to be its enemies: that same reason is the one by which it will come about that in that judgment, then, it does not pray even for men to be tormented with eternal fire, although a man be of perfect holiness. For it now prays for those whom it has as enemies in the human race for this reason, that it is the time of fruitful penance. Hence it prays (as the apostle says) that God may give them repentance, and they may recover themselves from the snares of the devil, by whom they are held captive according to his will."3 "Finally," he says, "were it so certain about some that it knew who they are who, although they are set in this life, are yet predestined to go into the eternal fire with the devil, it would no more pray for them than for him." From these it is clear that no one would pray specially for one whom he knows to be, perpetually before the time of the prayer, damned forever.4 Again, blessed Gregory, Morals 34, chapter —, says the same teachingsentencia: CONTEXTUAL: teaching / sentence as Augustine: "Where is it, they say, that they are saints, if they will not pray for their enemies whom they see burning? But we answer: they pray for their enemies at the time when they can turn their hearts to fruitful penance. But how will prayer then be made for them, when they can no longer be changed from iniquity to the works of justice? There is therefore the same reason why prayer is not made then for these damned men as there is now why prayer is not made for the devil himself." And he infers many like things there.5 And the reason of all these holy doctors stands in this: no one ought to pray God specially to obtainimpetrare: obtain (by request) something which he knows it would then be unreasonable for God to grant him and impossible for him to acquire for himself; now so it would be with anyone knowingly praying for the beatification of a man whom he knows God has ordained to perpetual damnation; therefore the conclusionconclusio: conclusion.6 The minor is clear from this, that the one praying would not only know such a prayer to be in vain, but would be knowingly contrary to the divine will, and consequently unfit to say from the heart the prayer which Christ taught, Matthew 6:10: "Thy will be done in heaven and on earth." How, I ask, does he humbly subject his will to the divine will, who sees clearly that it is fair and useful that it be done so by divine ordinanceordinacio; ordinancia: ordinance; of the sacrament, ordination, and that the opposite would be harmful and shameful, and yet presses that God should do that which in fact would be unreasonable?7 For it would be just as if he asked God to change his purpose and eternal ordinance, or to better the world infinitely beyond what he has decreed, or as if he were to pray that God not permit some evil to be done which is already past. But Peter, Matthew 16:23, was called Satan for such a contrary petition by him who says, John 17:9: "I pray not for the world" (that is, for the foreknownprescitus, -i: the foreknown, whose damnation is with the world), and from whom John says: "There is a sin unto death. For that I say not that any man ask", 1 John, last chapter, 16.8 And this is the reason why the blessed ask only for the worthy, whom they behold God wills to help; for otherwise they would be most wretched, or languidly frustrated of their petition, or else they would pray in vain, against their own will, for that which they […] desire; which would be a great doubleness in them.9

¶2526.32–528.17

526Ideo patet quod quidquid fidelis rite oraverit effectualiter ad hoc tendit quod Deus faciat in omnibus illud quod sibi videbitur expedire. Et sic omnes 527debite oraciones sunt realiter graciarum acciones quibus confitentes inmensitatem sue misericordis benevolencie dicimus: Fiat voluntas tua undique. Nec aliud licet nobis petere nisi si et quatenus tibi placuerit. Et hec racio, quare bona vita est optima oracio; Deus enim non potest expergisci vel precibus nostris flecti, ideo necessarium est orare pro vivis et mortuis, ut ex caritate mereamur nobis ipsis et dignificemur communicare meritum nostrum aliis. Deus autem distribuit secundum capacitatem eorum et non secundum limitacionem nostram, cum sepe oratur pro mortuis non ex hoc suffragium participantibus sed punitis, ut patet de multis prepositis ecclesie legem sacerdotum vetantibus, sicut innuit decretum, XXIª, q. IIIª, Ciprianus, ubi sic dicitur: Si hoc fecisset quis, non oretur pro eo, nec sacrificium pro dormicione eius celebretur. Neque enim ante altare Dei merentur nominari in sacerdotum prece qui ab altari sacerdotes et ministros volunt advocare. Nec valet glossa dicens: hoc esse dictum tantummodo ad terrorem, quia sic diceretur ad omnem legem que in penam sonuerit. Ideo caveant episcopi et domini qui vel omissione correpcionis vel commissione continuacionis trahunt sacerdotes a vita clericali ad seculum, cum decedentes sine satisfaccione non debent redimi, eciamsi habuerint quotlibet cantarias, dicente decreto Jeronymi XIIª, q. IIª, In presenti seculo: Cum, inquit, ante tribunal Christi venerimus, nec Job nec Daniel nec Noe rogare posse pro quoquam sed unumquemque oportet portare onus suum. 528Sed ut clarius pateant sanctorum sentencie in parte, obicitur multipliciter quod orandum est specialiter pro dampnatis. Primo quia orandum est pro istis viventibus prescitis, sive sint amici in gracia secundum presentem iusticiam sive inimici secundum iniusticiam presentem dampnabiles. Cum ergo illi pro suo tempore sunt dampnati, videtur quod oportet orare pro dampnatis, eciam licet scitur eos esse tales, tum quia orans scit omnia in communi, tum eciam quia scit in particulari pro suo tempore quod prescitus huiusmodi est dampnatus. Sed illud sophisma non solvit difficultatem qua queritur utrum viator orans pro mortuis debet pro eodem tempore orare pro dampnato pro quo tempore scit particulariter et distincte quod ille tunc sit dampnatus ad penam perpetuam. Et contra hoc vadunt raciones et sophisticantur evidencie ad eiusdem oppositum colorandum.

Therefore it is clear that whatever the faithful man has duly prayed tends effectually to this, that God do in all things that which will seem expedient to him. And so all 527due prayers are really thanksgivings, by which, confessing the immensity of his merciful benevolence, we say: "Thy will be done everywhere. Nor is it lawful for us to ask anything else, except if and insofar as it shall please thee."10 And this is the reason why a good life is the best prayer; for God cannot be awakened or bent by our prayers; therefore it is necessary to pray for the living and the dead, so that out of charity we may merit for ourselves and be made worthy to share our merit with others. And God distributes according to their capacity and not according to our assignmentlimitacio (ad officium): assignment, since prayer is often made for dead men who do not share in the suffragesuffragia: suffrages from it but are punished,11 as is clear of many superiorsprepositi: superiors of the church who forbid the law of priests, as the decree hints, C. 21 q. 3 Ciprianus, where it is said thus: "If anyone had done this, let no prayer be made for him, nor let the sacrifice be celebrated for his falling asleep. For they do not deserve to be named in the prayer of the priests before the altar of God who wish to summon priests and ministers from the altar."12 Nor does the gloss avail that says this was said only to terrify, because so it would be said of every law that sounds a penalty. Therefore let the bishopsepiscopus; dominus episcopus: bishop; the lord bishop and lordsdominus; dominari: lord; to exercise lordship / to lord it beware who, by omission of correction or by commission of continuitycontinuacio: continuity, draw priestssacerdos / presbiter: priest / presbyter from the clerical life to the world, since those who die without satisfaction ought not to be redeemed, even if they had any number of chantriescantaria: chantry;13 as the decree of Jerome says, C. 12 q. 2 In presenti seculo: "When," he says, "we come before the tribunal of Christ, neither Job nor Daniel nor Noah [can] ask for anyone, but every one must bear his own burden."14 528But that the teachings of the saints may appear more clearly in part, it is objectedinstatur; obicitur: it is objected in many ways that one is to pray specially for the damned. First, because one is to pray for these living foreknown, whether they are friends in grace according to present justicesecundum presentem iusticiam: according to present justice or enemies, damnable according to present injustice. Since therefore they are damned for their time, it seems that one must pray for the damned, even though they are known to be such, both because the one praying knows all things in general, and also because he knows in particular, for its time, that such a foreknown man is damned.15 But that sophismsophisma: sophism does not solve the difficulty in which it is asked whether a wayfarerviator: wayfarer praying for the dead ought to pray, for the same time, for one damned, for which time he knows particularly and distinctly that he is then damned to perpetual punishment. And against this the reasons go, and evidences are counterfeitedsophisticare (transitive): to counterfeit to give colour tocolorare: give colour to its opposite.16

Notes

  1. 1 Augustine, De civitate Dei 21.24; the codices give "XXII … cap. XXIII" (524.18), and the print’s XXI, 24 is Loserth’s (Aug. Opp. VII, 641–642). Matthew 5:44. C. The Origenists’ argument is reported, not quoted: si … debent is the antecedent, multo magis beati … orabant the consequent. Orabant: imperfect as printed (the codices orabat, 524.23); a future would be easier; the print is translated. Exaudibiles: apt to be heard. In via: on the way, still wayfarers. R. Side-note 524.18; A in the margin at 524.18: Argumentum pro salvacione omnium.
  2. 2 Glossant quod: they gloss it to mean that. Homines digni sunt … dicturus est: italic in the print and Augustine’s own words (De civ. Dei 21.24, Quod nemo sanae fidei dixit, nemo dicturus est), so the quotation runs through dicturus est.
  3. 3 Augustine, De civitate Dei 21.24; the wording, from Alioquin to voluntatem, is close; Augustine has no homo (quamvis perfecta sit sanctitate, the church as subject). 2 Timothy 2:25–26 (Loserth, 525.11): Wyclif has ut Deus det for the Vulgate nequando Deus det, omits ad cognoscendam veritatem, and has de for a and secundum for ad; his Latin is translated, the Douay–Rheims wording kept where it agrees. C. Hec ergo causa qua fit: no verb; "is" is understood. Quamvis homo perfecta sit sanctitate: so printed; in Augustine the subject is the church ("although it be of perfect holiness"), and homo is translated as it stands. In illo tunc iudicio: in that judgment, then. Penitencia: "penance", but "repentance" in the verse, with the Douay.
  4. 4 Augustine, De civitate Dei 21.24. C. De aliquibus ita certa esset: an unreal condition without si; the church is the subject. Predestinati ire in ignem: Augustine’s use, of being destined to the fire; it is not Wyclif’s technical term for the predestinate, and is left untagged. Perpetualiter … perpetuo: so printed; the first adverb is taken with ante tempus oracionis, but it may simply double the second.
  5. 5 Gregory, Moralia 34.19 (Loserth, 525.18: "XXXIV, cap. XIX [vet. XIII] in cap. XLI b. Job"). The codices leave a gap for the chapter number (525.18), which the print marks with a dash. Wyclif adapts the ending (pro hominibus istis dampnatis … pro ipso dyabolo); Gregory’s own wording is pro diabolo angelisque ejus aeterno supplicio deputatis. T. Quando iam non possunt is Loserth’s correction from Gregory; the codices read qui iam non (525.24). B lacks quod … suis (525.19). C. Ubi est … quod sunt sancti: "where is [the truth] that they are saints". R. A in the margin at 525.18: Gregorius.
  6. 6 The racio is a syllogism: major Nemo debet …, minor sed sic foret … (sed marking the minor), conclusion ergo conclusio. Sibi: in Deum sibi concedere, the man prayed for; in sibi ipsum adquirere the same man, ipsum being the thing asked; sibi may instead be the one praying. Beatificacio: being made blessed. R. Side-note 526.1; A in the margin at 525.29: Racio. Non est orandum pro dampnatis perpetue.
  7. 7 Matthew 6:10: Wyclif has in celo et in terra for the Vulgate sicut in celo et in terra; his Latin is translated. C. Instat ut: presses, urges; not the objection formula. Ex animo: from the heart. T. A and A₁ dicendum quod animo (526, about l. 10).
  8. 8 Matthew 16:23 (Peter rebuked as Satan for resisting the passion); John 17:9; 1 John 5:16, Douay–Rheims (Wyclif pro eo for the Vulgate pro illo). C. Talem adversam peticionem: a petition contrary to God’s ordinance. Quorum dampnacio est cum mundo: whose damnation goes with the world’s. A quo Johannes dicit: so printed, "from whom John says", that is, having it from Christ. T. A and B didicit (526.22): "from whom John learned", the easier sense; the print is translated.
  9. 9 Quod de appetunt: Loserth notes that a word seems to have fallen out after de (526.31); the gap is marked […] and nothing is supplied. De facto, "in fact", would fit. C. Languide … frustrati: feebly balked of their petition. Duplicitas: doubleness, between will and petition.
  10. 10 Fiat voluntas tua undique: the third petition of the Lord’s Prayer in Wyclif’s words ("everywhere" for "on earth as in heaven"). The quotation is closed after placuerit, since tibi continues the address to God; it may close at undique. Graciarum acciones: thanksgivings. R. Side-notes 526.32, 527.1.
  11. 11 Expergisci: to be woken, as from sleep: prayer does not rouse God. Mereamur … communicare meritum: prayer is merit, which charity shares. Limitacio: our assignment of a prayer to a person (row); God distributes by the capacity of those prayed for (eorum). Non ex hoc suffragium participantibus sed punitis: dead men who do not share in the suffrage by it, but are punished. R. Side-note 527.10.
  12. 12 Decretum C.21 q.3 c.4 Ciprianus (Loserth, 527.15; the modern form is ours), from Cyprian, Ep. 1, on a man who named a priest guardian in his will. T. Loserth notes that the canon reads non offeretur (527.16). B avocare, "call away" (527.19); the print’s advocare is translated "summon … from". C. Legem sacerdotum vetantibus: who forbid priests their law, that is, keep priests from their rule of life by drawing them into secular business, as in Cyprian’s case. Prepositi ecclesie: superiors of the church generally (row prepositi). Pro dormicione eius: for his falling asleep, his death.
  13. 13 Glossa: the ordinary gloss on C. 21 q. 3 c. 4, v. pro dormitione, Dicunt tamen quidam hoc esse dictum ad terrorem (glossed Decretum, 1588). In penam sonuerit: sounds (threatens) a penalty. Commissione continuacionis: taken as keeping priests continually in secular service, the counterpart of omissione correpcionis; continuacio is "continuity" (row). Redimi: be redeemed by prayers and masses. Quotlibet cantarias: chantries founded for their souls. T. A and A₁ etsi habuerint (527.26). R. A in the margin at 527.26: Arguitur quod orandum est pro dampnatis et dissolvitur.
  14. 14 Decretum C.13 q.2 c.20 In presenti seculo (Loserth, 527.27: "causa XIII, q. II, cap. XX"; the modern form is ours); the print’s XIIª disagrees with Loserth’s own reference. Jerome, on Galatians 6, is its author (Friedberg). Ezekiel 14:14 names Noah, Daniel and Job; Galatians 6:5, Douay "every one shall bear his own burden", here unumquemque oportet portare, "every one must bear". T. "[can]" is our supply: rogare posse hangs on a governing verb of Jerome’s sentence not quoted. B posset (527.29).
  15. 15 Pro suo tempore sunt dampnati: the foreknown are damned "for their time", that is, it is true now that they will be damned; the objection treats the living foreknown as already damned. Secundum iniusticiam presentem dampnabiles: damnable by their present injustice, the counterpart of secundum presentem iusticiam. Scit omnia in communi: knows all in general (that some are foreknown). In parte: taken as "in part"; it may mean "on this side [of the question]". T. A and A₁ scit impertiri (528.10). R. Side-note 528.1; A in the margin at 528.2: Obiectus.
  16. 16 Sophisma: the argument just given, which shows only that the foreknown are damned "for their time"; the real question is praying for one known, at the time of the prayer, to be damned already. Contra hoc vadunt raciones: the arguments that follow (528.18 ff.) go against the answer that one may not so pray. Sophisticantur evidencie: evidences are counterfeited (row sophisticare). T. B salutat solvit; A salutat corrected to solvit; A₁ salutat (528.12).
How the Latin of this chapter was established
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    • 524: ∅ (asks is the English side-note; Item, already present at pos 132)
    • 524: assit [NW]
    • 524: dyabolo) [NW]
    • 525: fit
    • 526: foret
    • 526: Iª
    • 526: illud
    • 527: tua
    • 527: placuerit. (5 is the line number)
    • 527: XXIª
    • 527: XIIª
    • 527: IIª
    • 528: in (200d folio mark and margin letter G glued)